Adrian Milag: In your book Credo, you warn against a false mercy that distorts doctrine. How is this affecting the Church today?
Bishop Schneider: Very much now, we have a danger in the Church, an infiltrating movement under the pretext of mercy and accompaniment, a legitimization, basically, of homosexual activity and homosexual acts. This is a movement in the Church going on in the so-called LGBTQ communities, or Catholics, or pastoral work. But this is a huge deception and a huge intrigue, because these so called LGBT people or organizations declare officially and repeatedly their aim, which is that the Church must change the doctrine on homosexual acts, change it, and say to them, you LGBT people, you can sin, you can commit homosexual acts, we change the doctrine.
Now this is the aim. We have to be very honest and not make a game here. No, this is the aim. And Father Martin, the most famous activist and lobbyist of this tendency and this movement, declares it clearly and openly in his books that the Church must change the doctrine regarding homosexual acts, they must be approved. This is the aim. These people or these organizations are not intending to repent or to change or to ask for help to live chastely, and so on. No, they have no intention to convert. On the contrary, they will convert the Catholic teaching against the Church, the teaching of Christ, and the commandments of God.
And we had this very sad display last week, all the world was astonished that this LGBT organization was put on the official calendar of the Holy See as one of the Jubilee events. And they, as an organization, had a Mass in an important church, and they used the cross painted with the LGBT flag. Even though they did not carry the LGBT flag through the Holy Door in Saint Peter’s Basilica, they carried the cross, which was desecrated by this LGBT symbol, by the Gay Pride symbol. This was a Gay Pride symbol, which is always used.
And in their T-shirts, they had these rainbow symbols. And even some of the homosexual couples went in with these T-shirts and holding hands, presenting themselves as being loved. This is an abomination through the Holy Door. The Holy Door is a sign of repentance to gain the Jubilee indulgence. But you can only gain the indulgence when you repent of previous sins. But they did the contrary. They showed up and displayed their same sex relationship going into Saint Peter’s together.
And so we have to state this. This is an abomination that the Holy See put it in the official calendar as this and allowed a bishop to celebrate Mass for them without inviting them to chastity or to repentance or anything. It was a platform, a stage for the propaganda of the ideology of the LGBT movement. That is to say that the Catholic teaching must change, that homosexual acts must be accepted by the Church. This is their aim, and we cannot give such organizations a stage and a platform in the Church.
Adrian Milag: You mentioned Father James Martin. He just met with Pope Leo two weeks ago. What can you say about that meeting, Bishop?
Bishop Schneider: It was very regretful. The Pope should not do this, because he is known in his books as an advocate of changing the teaching of the Church. And this stance is already wrong. When the Pope publicly receives him and makes a photograph, this is already a sign that he, in some way, is not against or not correcting him. So this is a tacit sign that the Pope says, “Okay, you can continue”.
And Father Martin explained it. He made a triumphant message on social media that Pope Leo said to him that he can continue with this. But how could the Pope say this, because we do not know if it is true. But Father James spread this news. And if it were wrong or false, the Pope and the Holy See must immediately intervene and make a statement and say no, the Pope did not encourage him. At least this phrase should be said, but it has not been done until today.
And so all the people, the whole world, are left in serious doubt if the Holy See and the Pope really confirm this tendency to change the Catholic teaching on homosexual acts as Father James requires. Without any clarifying statement, I think it is a grievous omission on the part of the Pope and the Holy See not to clarify it to the public. And even after this event in the Basilica of Saint Peter with the so-called LGBT community, there are still no clarifications.
Until now, I think it is, I repeat, a grave omission from the part of the Pope and the Holy See to leave Catholics and the entire world in ambiguity and doubt about an important commandment of God. And also taking into account that there has been, for decades, a worldwide political movement through many countries to implement the so-called gender ideology, which is basically the phenomenon of the LGBT movement.