Terry: Welcome to the Terry and Jesse Show. This is a special edition. We have the honor of having Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Bishop Joseph Strickland from the Diocese of Tyler together for the first time. I would like to welcome both bishops, and Jess Romero is also here. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you, Terry. Thank you for coming.
Jesse: Thank you, Terry.
Our pleasure, guys. Before we ask all these questions, which are so important, we often discuss the perennial teachings of the Church and how we can help people fall deeply in love with Jesus and Mary. For the benefit of those who don’t know who Bishop Athanasius Schneider is, or even Bishop Joseph Strickland here in America, Bishop Athanasius, could you tell us a little bit about yourself and where you grew up, so we have a little background on you, please?
Bishop Schneider: I was born in Central Asia, in Kyrgyzstan, to German parents who were deported by Stalin after the Second World War to the Ural Mountains for forced labor. My parents were active members of the clandestine church, the underground church, with holy and martyred priests. Later, they moved to Kyrgyzstan and continued to be members of the clandestine church, along with our entire family.
I grew up in the clandestine church, and this gave me a foundation for my whole life. I am thankful to God for that. Then we moved to Estonia in the Soviet Union, where I continued my life in a parish with a holy priest who had been in prison before.
We moved to Germany at the end of 1973, and I continued high school there. After high school, I entered the Canons Regular of the Holy Cross in Austria. After the novitiate, I was sent on mission to Brazil, where I studied philosophy and theology in a diocese led by a holy bishop, Bishop Manuel Pestana. It was in the Diocese of Anápolis in central Brazil. He ordained me a priest, and I worked for one year in the Diocese of Aparecida, near São Paulo.
Then my superior sent me to Rome to study the Church Fathers, Patristics, and I earned my doctorate in Patristics there. I was later elected General Counselor of my order. In 1999, I was asked to go to Kazakhstan to teach and assist in the formation of priests, since I still spoke Russian, which is still used in Kazakhstan.
In 2006, Pope Benedict appointed me auxiliary bishop of the Diocese of Karaganda, where the seminary was located. Ten years later, I was moved to the capital city as an auxiliary bishop. I am currently the General Secretary of the Bishops’ Conference in Kazakhstan.
Terry: Thank you, I love it. And now, Bishop Joseph Strickland, your story.
Bishop Strickland: Well, mine is certainly much less dramatic than Bishop Schneider’s. I grew up here in northeast Texas, in a little town called Atlanta, and went to Mass at a small mission church, St. Catherine’s. It was never underground or facing the kind of challenges that Bishop Schneider experienced, but it was a very non-Catholic area. We were taught that being Catholic was our greatest treasure.
There were six children in our family, seven total, though one died as an infant. I grew up in Atlanta, Texas, and attended public school there. I didn’t have the opportunity to go to a Catholic school until I went to seminary at the University of Dallas and Holy Trinity Seminary in the Dallas area. I entered at 18 and was ordained at 26 in 1985. My first assignment was at Immaculate Conception Church here in Tyler.
I’ve spent the majority of my life in the city of Tyler as a priest, then as rector of the cathedral for many years. In 2012, I was named the fourth bishop of the Diocese of Tyler. I haven’t moved around much like Bishop Schneider, staying mostly within 100 miles of where I grew up.
I really appreciate Bishop Schneider’s story. I’ve read most of his book about his struggles. I think what we share, even though we’re from very different parts of the world, is a deep love for Jesus Christ and His Church. I think I can speak for Bishop Schneider when I say it’s something we are willing to die for, like the great martyrs.
We just celebrated St. Joseph, and I would hope to live, in some small way, as St. Joseph did. Interestingly, his life’s work was for the unity of the Church, and he was ultimately martyred for it. I’m sure St. Joseph’s example is significant for Bishop Schneider, since he was an Eastern Christian who came to the West and sought unity, ultimately dying for it.
The treasure of our Catholic faith is worth dying for. I’m not volunteering to be martyred, but we must be ready for that rather than diluting or backing away from the truth. The truth is glorious, it roars like a lion, and it sets us free.
Terry: I love it, Bishop Strickland. Jesse and I would..
Bishop Strickland: I’ve been talking to Terry too much.
Terry: Jess, wouldn’t you agree with both bishops that that’s true? We’re willing to die for our faith. I mean, look, we’re rounding third base right now. All of us are in our 60s. Life is short, eternity is forever. Jesse, before we take the break, I want to set the stage. You made a lot of these questions for both bishops. Can you set the stage? We have this crisis in the Church and in the world. Can you set the stage for these questions, please?
Jesse: Yes. First of all, I want to say that Bishop Schneider and Bishop Strickland, both of you, are inspiring lay Catholics around the world, unlike virtually anyone else. God is powerfully using you to raise the laity, to pursue holiness, to continue evangelizing, and even to embrace martyrdom. I call bishops the generals of the Catholic Church, and we are the foot soldiers. Both of you, as generals, are doing exactly what the Lord Jesus Christ commissioned you to do.
Having said that, we find ourselves in a situation now where we have a state religion, a worldwide state religion that started with COVID-19 and everything that came with it, the vaccinations, the mandates, the six feet apart, the masks, and the “Pope Fauci.” Then we have the one true faith, the Catholic Church. Right now, we’re at a point of conflict, and many laypeople want direction. They want spiritual guidance. So, Terry, you let me know where we’re going to start.
Terry: That’s right. I’m looking at the clock. We’re going to take a quick break, but when we come back, we’ll jump right in. I’ll ask each of you a question. You can answer, and if the other wants to add something, they can.
Here’s the first question for Bishop Athanasius Schneider. Bishop Schneider, what is your suggestion for someone who has been given the ultimatum that they’ll lose their job if they don’t take this vaccination? We get these calls almost daily from people saying, “If I don’t take this vaccination, I’ll lose my job.” What should they do?
Bishop Schneider: I think we have to follow our conscience, even when we face only temporal disadvantages. To lose your job is not to lose your soul or eternity. In our culture, even within the Church, there has grown a mentality of materialism and excessive attachment to this short earthly life.
When we read about the first Christians during the first three centuries, they sacrificed their lives because they refused to put even one grain of incense before the statue of an idol or to make an oath to the “genius” of the emperor. This was considered a kind of idolatry, and they were martyred for refusing. They didn’t just lose their jobs; they lost their lives.
Therefore, we have to be Catholics who can resist and follow our conscience, trusting that God will provide for us.
Terry: Well said, Bishop Schneider. I have to jump in; we’ve got a quick break. Great answer. When we come back, we’ll have more questions and answers from Bishop Strickland and Bishop Schneider here on the Terry and Jesse Show. Stay with us, family. We’ll be right back.
Welcome back to the Terry and Jesse Show. This is an amazing program today. We have Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Bishop Joseph Strickland together to talk about how people can fall deeper in love with Jesus Christ and His Bride, the Church. We’re asking questions regarding COVID-19 and other issues. Jess, our second question, can you bring it to Bishop Strickland?
Jesse: Yes, Bishop Strickland, what’s your advice for families whose children are being compelled to be vaccinated in order to attend schools, like in California?
Bishop Strickland: Well, following what Bishop Schneider said, we have to resist. I know it’s a great hardship for families, and I don’t discount that. But as Bishop Schneider mentioned, we’re moving into a world that’s becoming a totalitarian state, where freedom of conscience and many other freedoms, freedoms that people have died for through the centuries, are being ignored.
What struck me about Bishop Schneider’s words is that he’s lived through that kind of totalitarian oppression since childhood, and now we’re beginning to see it as a worldwide phenomenon. We must stand for the truth and stop compromising.
For families, I’d say: get together, support each other, maybe form homeschool groups. People say, “We have to work,” but cooperate with each other. Find families who are also resisting. When one person stands firm, it helps the next person to be stronger. That’s how we resist totalitarian forces.
If we all give in and compromise our beliefs, we’re not only losing our jobs, we’re losing everlasting life, our identity, and our humanity. We must say no. These mandates are immoral. No one has the right to invade our conscience and free will. It’s totalitarianism, and it’s rampant in our world.
As Bishop Schneider said, even we bishops could lose our positions. It’s happened before. Look at St. Josaphat, who was martyred rather than compromise his faith. People may think bishops are safe, but all of us must stand firm for the truth and support each other.
For families saying, “We won’t vaccinate our six-year-old,” that’s not only morally right, it’s also medically reasonable.
Terry: Well said. That leads us to the next question for both of you. You’ve both been outspoken and fearless, even in the face of criticism from higher levels of the Church. What’s your secret? How do you stand so strong, knowing you’re kind of standing alone? Bishop Athanasius Schneider, first.
Bishop Schneider: We are never alone when we are with the truth. We stand with all the saintly bishops, beginning with the apostles. They were courageous, and many of the early Church Fathers were martyrs and confessors.
When we defend the truth according to our conscience as bishops and as Catholics, we must give account before God, not before the pope or a bishops’ conference, but before God Himself. We are in the company of so many holy bishops and doctors of the Church.
In the United States, you have Archbishop Fulton Sheen, a courageous voice in his time. I also remember a phrase from St. Gregory of Nazianzus, a great fourth-century Father of the Church during the Arian crisis, when the majority of bishops were compromising with heresy. He said, “God is not delighted in numbers.”
Terry: Wow. I love that quote.
Bishop Strickland: I love Bishop Schneider’s name, Athanasius, another great saint of that same era. Bishop Schneider, I think you are our Athanasius for the 21st century. I know that’s a lot to say, but it’s true. We need Athanasius, we need Gregory of Nazianzus, and we need courage.
As you said, we’re not alone. That’s a beautiful reminder for all Catholics who feel isolated. Many people have told me they feel alone, and I’m sure they’ve said the same to you. But we are united with the communion of saints. When we live the truth, even in this world, we are united with them, especially at Mass, where we join the everlasting sacrifice of Christ.
That’s why the Eucharist is so important. All of these issues come back to being one with God and with each other. When we feel alone, we must remember that in God there is no time; all those voices of truth still glorify Him, and we are called to join them by proclaiming the truth here and now.
Terry: Amen.
Jesse: Here’s the next question for both of you. What advice would you give a priest who wants to sign a religious exemption but whose bishop won’t allow it?
Bishop Strickland: I’ll speak from my own prayer and experience. Obedience is very important. Respect and obedience to one’s bishop are necessary. Many saints endured great trials in obedience. Of course, obedience to God is the highest obedience.
To that priest, I’d say: respect and obey your bishop, but also seek ways to remain true to your beliefs. I’ve had priests contact me when their bishop told them not to sign exemptions. It depends on the situation, but I’ve sometimes given exemption letters for people outside my diocese, even without authority, and some have been accepted.
So I’d suggest referring people to someone who can help them, rather than directly defying their bishop. Still, we can’t obey anyone who commands something immoral. If that priest were being forced to take the vaccine himself, that’s where obedience would have to end.
I’d love to hear Bishop Schneider’s thoughts; he’s a better theologian than I am. I’m just a country kid who loves Christ and His Church and has studied enough to know the truth. So Bishop Schneider, would you add or nuance anything there?
Bishop Schneider: Bishop Strickland, I think you gave a very balanced and prudent answer. I would also repeat what you said, to refer these priests to other possibilities to obtain this document. But when it comes to the case of himself, if the bishop forces him, then I think he has to refuse because this is already a very important question of his conscience. Therefore, he can refuse even when he loses some faculties, so he can continue to be a priest, and God will provide for him in some way.
Terry: Bishop Strickland, Bishop Athanasius Schneider, you were a very big blessing to a friend of mine, a very famous doctor here in Southern California, a heart surgeon. You were able to sign one of these exemptions for him, and as a matter of fact, it got him back into the hospital to do heart surgery. They were amazed that somebody halfway around the world signed this letter for this doctor. They said, Who the heck, how do you know this guy? My point is, thank you for going the extra mile, halfway around the world to do that. And yeah, thank you for that.
Bishop Strickland, Bishop Athanasius Schneider, I know because of your work with the order that you’re in, you have a great devotion to the holy angels. When we come back from the break, I’d like to ask you to talk about how the holy angels play a role in helping us fall deeply in love with Jesus Christ and His bride, the Church, and how we should all have great devotion to our guardian angel. As we say, the unemployment rate for guardian angels is way too high. Let’s put them to work when we come back. Bishop Schneider will tell us how to put our angels to work for us. Stay with us, family.
Terry, Jesse, Bishop Strickland, and Bishop Athanasius Schneider. Jess, we like to say we’re too blessed to be stressed, too anointed to be disappointed, and if hope were money, we’d be billionaires because our hope is in Jesus Christ. I gave a little teaser, Jess, about the angels and how they work, how to collaborate with them. Bishop Schneider, I’ll give you an example right now. We have several people in church behind me. This is a picture of our chapel before the Blessed Sacrament. They’re praying, and they’re all consecrated to their guardian angels and to all the angels. These are people deeply in love with Jesus. Bishop Schneider, you have a great love for your guardian angel because of the order you are in. Can you share with us why it’s so important to collaborate with your angel in the work of salvation?
Bishop Schneider: Our Lord Jesus Christ said in the Gospel that the angels of the little ones, and we are all little ones, continuously contemplate the face of God in heaven. This is the characteristic of the angels: to be in the presence of God. Therefore, it is important for us to live more in the presence of God, to gain a greater awareness of eternal life and the supernatural world.
The angels, in all their essence and nature, proclaim the glory of God. They are singing “Holy, holy, holy.” We know the prayer of the angels, the Sanctus, where they say, “Heaven and Earth are full of thy glory.” This should move us, in all our thinking and working, to promote the glory of God.
Another characteristic of the holy angels is that they are fighters for Christ because they fight against the evil spirits. We are surrounded by temptations and by the influence of evil spirits. Therefore, we pray in the Our Father, “Deliver us from evil.” St. Peter says the devil is circling you like a lion, so be watchful. We have to invoke the holy angels as our protectors. Ultimately, I would say the holy angels are our best friends, our best companions, co-adorers, and co-fighters for Christ.
Terry: Well said. Anything you want to add to that, Bishop Joseph Strickland? I figured you’d say amen. And just a note, everyone, we have the Bishop Strickland Hour on Virgin Most Powerful every Tuesday. If you want to hear Bishop Strickland every week talk about the Catechism of the Catholic Church and his tweets, you can tune in every Tuesday. Jess, what’s the next question?
Jesse: Yeah. So, bishops, what is the best course of action for parishes if there’s another situation where the government closes the churches again? What are we going to do? Do we close down again and deny everyone the sacraments? Bishop Strickland first, then Bishop Schneider.
Bishop Strickland: Just say no.
Terry: I love it.
Bishop Strickland: I don’t think we need a lot of drama. Hopefully, it doesn’t happen, but we need to just say no. No, we’re not closing the churches. As bishops, as priests, and as laity, we need to say no, we’re not closing the churches. If it brings us to the point of them doing something drastic, so be it.
As we were talking about, being forced to take a vaccine that’s contrary to your conscience for any reason is wrong, but being forced to not be with the angels singing “Holy, holy, holy,” being forced to not worship God in His house, we have to simply say no, you can’t force us not to worship God. If they destroy the churches, we gather anyway. The Church is our faith, but our temples are important because they remind us of the faith, and they are places where we worship and give glory to God.
Finally, I would say let’s remember that in any family, or any individual Catholic, or any priest, the angels are with us when we say no to that sort of interference with our obligation to worship and glorify God. So just say no.
Terry: Thank you, Bishop. Bishop Athanasius, do you have any further comments on that?
Bishop Schneider: Amen. I’m so happy to hear this. I would only add that if the government closes our churches by force, then we have to be creative and find other means to go to clandestine meetings. The Church has much experience in clandestine worship.
Terry: Bishop Schneider, our chapel, which is behind me, is the Sacred Heart Chapel in Covina. It was the first Catholic church in Covina, built in 1911, and we owned the chapel, so we never closed our doors because people would come in and pray. They would be before the Blessed Sacrament and be in tears because they could not go into their regular churches to pray. Yes, we paid a price for that, and we are willing to do that again. I happen to agree with both of you that we say no, we are not going to close our churches. Thank you. Jess, do you have another question you want to ask next?
Jesse: I have heard from some wonderful bishops that the Great Reset, Fauci, Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, this whole Great Reset is nothing but the imposition of communist power and control over the people. My question to you, bishops, is do you believe that the Great Reset is the imposition of communism, the infiltration of communism? Who do you think is behind the Great Reset? Is it the Masons? Is it the Marxists? Is it the modernists? What do you say, Bishop?
Terry: Or is it Satan or all of the above? Go ahead.
Bishop Strickland: Or all of the above. I will let Bishop Schneider go with that one.
Bishop Schneider: Well, I think it seems that we are going to a worldwide neo communist dictatorship. What does communism mean? Communism means that everyone is made the same, so society becomes uniform. In communism, you always have the same thinking and the same customs, so you lose your individuality. This is a characteristic of all communist systems. You also lose your privacy. Now, with the green pass and everything else, we are completely controlled, and our privacy is being used. You also lose your property. This is communism. Now, with mandatory vaccinations, we are even losing the property of our own bodies. You can no longer decide about your body. The government decides and becomes the owner even of your body. To me, this is the final stage of communism.
Communism also means atheism. It seeks to expel God from life completely or to substitute God with a false religion. Now it seems that health is becoming a god. Health itself becomes a religion. You have to sacrifice for health, even innocent babies, by killing them and abusing and marketing their body parts. This happens even without vaccination. For example, in Austria, the bishops recently established that only vaccinated people are allowed. Others will no longer be allowed to enter the church. This is a worldly religious style where health becomes a religion that continues to spread and replaces the true religion.
Our Lady of Fatima said that Russia would spread its errors throughout the world. Russia is a code word for communism. Now we are witnessing humanity not converting but becoming more sinful and revolting against God. Communism is growing, and therefore, we have to resist. We have to build a worldwide network of resistance, political, social, and Christian against this new neo communist dictatorship. We must name it for what it is. We must say you are the new communists because all these mandates and controls are leading us there and remind us of communist ideology.
Ultimately, even by common sense, there must be a central, powerful elite coordinating these actions. It is impossible to have worldwide coordination without a central power and command.
Terry: Bishop Strickland, Bishop Athanasius, please. I want to hear more about this on the other side of the break. As you were, I do not want to cut you short. That was a good answer, and we will continue with that when we come back. You are listening to the Terry and Jesse Show on Virgin Most Powerful Radio. We have Bishop Joseph Strickland and Bishop Athanasius Schneider here for a special edition. Stay with us, family. We will let Bishop Athanasius continue with his answer when we come back.
Welcome back. We have Bishop Athanasius Schneider, Bishop Strickland, Jess Romero, and me. Remember, after this last break, we will continue on the podcast. We have a couple of good questions to ask both bishops regarding Archbishop Fulton Sheen and another topic on the Holy Eucharist. Bishop Athanasius Schneider, I cut you off because of the break. You were talking about the Great Reset and who is behind it. Please continue because I love what you were saying.
Bishop Schneider: Now we are observing a uniform coordination of COVID rules worldwide. This is clearly a central action. It cannot be simply coincidental. This demonstrates that there must be a central elite group that is coordinating this COVID dictatorship. Therefore, I think we have to encourage politicians and even some countries to form opposition. Perhaps a coalition of governments that will say no, we will not introduce a worldwide neo communist system in our country. I hope that countries like Hungary could form coalitions with others. Within our own countries, we must build political opposition that is clearly anti communist and anti-dictatorial. I hope this awakens the conscience of the Western world.
Terry: Well said. I can tell you one person who would do that. I know you do not want to get political, but Jesse, I am going to say it. Here is a president of the United States who said, when we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God’s creation. I can guarantee you Mr. Trump would not support this global program that is going on right now. That is just my personal opinion. I had to throw it in. Jess, I know you wrote a book on it, but this is a question that you asked, and I think both bishops should answer. Let’s go to Bishop Strickland. Are we living the approved Marian prophecies of Akita, Japan, where we see bishops versus cardinals?
Bishop Strickland: Well, I do not know if I have the complete answer to that, but I believe, as we have been talking now, as people of faith, we have to recognize that we are to embrace the good, the true, the beautiful. We are to glorify God, and we are seeing so much that opposes that in the world. Christ Himself tells us that only the Father knows when creation will come to an end. One of the best answers I have heard, and this was a couple of years ago, before COVID, because we have been in serious turmoil for several years, even pre-COVID, is from a monk I visited with. People were asking, is it the end of the world? We always have to look to Christ. He said only the Father knows. But this monk said something I thought was very good, that we all need to take to heart. He said it could be the end of your world. That is the spiritual focus we need to remember.
We are seeing, sadly, too much division in the Church. Saint Joseph died for unity, and unity is only in Jesus Christ. He is unity incarnate. He is truth incarnate. He is the divine Son of God. Any effort to unify that is not centered on Christ will not ultimately unify. We definitely need unity among the hierarchy of the Church. I am going to the bishop’s meeting here in the United States. Bishop Schneider is the General Secretary of his Bishops’ Conference there. There is a lot of disunity here in the United States. There are different voices, but ultimately, as people of faith, we know the only voice of truth is God and His incarnate Son.
We are talking a lot about the Eucharist at this meeting. That is why we must believe the Eucharist is the real presence and that we live accordingly. That is where our unity will flow from. There is too much compromise. I do not want to judge any bishop’s faith, but we are not hearing support for the right of conscience and free will, and belief in the real presence that we should be hearing. Sometimes I am accused of causing disunity. If we are not following the Word of God and Christ and living in His life, that is where disunity comes from. Let us all look to Christ.
I think that yes, we are seeing some signs from the messages of various apparitions, Akita, that you mentioned. We are seeing very sad signs of what that speaks to and how it all fits together. I do not claim to understand it fully, but we need to see the signs. I remind myself, and I am sure Bishop Schneider does as well, that we must seek unity, but real unity, always in Jesus Christ.
Terry: Amen.
Jesse: Bishop Schneider, do you want to comment on Akita, Japan? Have you read that prophecy, and do you think we are living out that prophecy right now?
Bishop Schneider: I agree with what Bishop Strickland said. This effect, which cannot be denied, with so many contradictory words and behaviors within the bishops’ group in the Church, is evidence that we have to pray for unity and for truth. This cannot be otherwise. We have to implore divine intervention that the Pope, who is the center of unity among the bishops, fulfill his divine mission as the visible sign of unity. Ultimately, it must come from the Pope. The Pope must unite all the bishops in truth and clarity. We have to pray for this.
Jesse: Bishop Schneider, you have lived through this. I want to ask you, what do you think is the bigger threat right now, radical Islam or communist infiltration into our government and into our Church?
Bishop Schneider: I think the greater danger is communist infiltration in government structures and in the life of the Church. Islam is not penetrating our Church life, and politically, they know that if Islam becomes powerful, we will have to obey Sharia law. Western people and politicians do not want this because it would force them to abandon immoral agendas like the homosexual agenda. Islam will not permit this if they gain power. Therefore, I think the Islamization of Europe is a tool that Neo communist powers are using to destabilize Europe and our society.
At the same time, the presence of Islam in Western societies can be an opportunity to evangelize, to proclaim Jesus Christ. Thanks be to God, there are some conversions, and it is also a way to witness our Christian faith.
Terry: I want to ask this of both bishops. Archbishop Fulton Sheen said in the early 70s that the laity is going to save the Church. I want to ask both of you to empower us. Most of the people watching and listening to this show are laypeople. In two minutes, can you speak to this? After the show, we will continue with the podcast because I have a couple more questions. Do you think Bishop Sheen was spot on when he called on the laity to get involved with solutions in the Church? Bishop Strickland, what is your take on Sheen’s quote?
Bishop Strickland: I would absolutely agree, and thankfully, I see evidence of that. I imagine Bishop Schneider sees the same. You laymen are working and bold enough to say politically incorrect things, and you have made sacrifices in your professional lives because you are standing for the truth. Many lay voices are strong, great institutes, and organizations developing movements of laymen and women. It makes intuitive sense to me. Bishops are a minority of the body of Christ. The great body of Christ is all the baptized, and we are here to serve the body. We are servants of the flock, and we must remember to be humble servants.
Laity has always been a great strength of the Church. When the shepherds are not united or are weaker than they should be, the laity will stand up because the truth wins. Amen. We have to trust in the power of truth.
Terry: We have to end this show, but we will continue with a podcast. For those listening, go to vmpr.org to listen to the rest of this interview. That is Virgin Most Powerful Radio.org. I have more questions regarding hope and the Holy Eucharist. Bishop Joseph Strickland constantly says we must believe in the Real Presence. We will talk to both bishops after this break. Give us a minute, and then go to vmpr.org to listen to the remaining part of this interview. Share this with your friends because the point is to inspire people to fall deeply in love with Jesus Christ and His bride, the Church. Jess, how should we be living? We end every show this way.
Jesse: Let us live in a state of grace. Do not live in a state of mortal sin. Pray your Rosary every day, read your Bible every day, and go to Mass as often as possible. Be holy or die trying.
Terry: Amen, folks. We will be back after this quick break with the podcast. Go to Virgin Most Powerful Radio.org. We look forward to getting the rest of the questions answered. May God richly bless you and your family.