Adrian Milag: And you consistently warn against the danger of Freemasonry, even describing it as one of the greatest enemies of the Church.
Bishop Schneider: We see the principles, I would say, the steps of Freemasonic ideology, in so many ecclesiastics, priests, bishops, and cardinals, and in Church policies, unfortunately. We can reduce it to one main point, because one of the main pillars of Freemasonic thought and policy is naturalism, reducing all reality of nature and excluding the supernatural vision, the supernatural life, and the supernatural revelation of God.
So they want to reduce the activity of the Church primarily to natural temporal affairs like justice and peace, migration, climate change, care for nature, the Earth, our common home, or Mother Earth, and so on. They reduce the activity of the Church to this earthly, naturalistic activity. This is the first step of Freemasonic influence in the Church.
The second, and this is more dangerous, and you can even find it in some statements of bishops and cardinals, is the attempt to change the commandments of God. This is the second pillar of Freemasonic logic. Their work consists of changing the divine laws given by God and establishing a new moral law that human beings themselves define. This relativization of the divine commandments leads to saying that homosexual acts can be allowed, divorce can be allowed, and contraception can be allowed, because the criterion is now the human being and human history.
This is very typical of Freemasonic thought, to change divine law. And the third is to declare that all religions are basically equal, and that there is no unique or exclusive religion. Freemasonic thought does not accept this. It promotes the idea that all religions are more or less equal, and therefore we must show this symbolically, that all religions meet on the same level and none is unique or exclusive.
This is typical Masonic thought, and it is a blow against the Gospel, against our Lord Jesus Christ, and against God Himself, who established one unique and exclusive religion through our Lord Jesus Christ and His Holy Church.
So, in these three points, we see signs of a certain influence of Freemasonic thinking. When a priest, bishop, or cardinal speaks in this way, it does not necessarily mean he is a member of Freemasonry. No, but he may have adopted its spirit. And God knows, some may even be real members of Masonic lodges. We cannot exclude it, but we cannot know. At least in what is spoken, there is the method and manner of Freemasonic ideology.
Adrian Milag: So, is it possible, Bishop, that the Church, the Vatican, is infiltrated with Freemasonry, some of our leaders and cardinals, Bishop?
Bishop Schneider: We cannot exclude it, any enemy, because the Catholic Church, the Vatican, is the enemy of Freemasonry par excellence. And so when you are a good strategist, and we have two enemies, the best method, the most cunning, is not to do a direct war against your enemy, but to infiltrate your enemy from within.
Therefore, it is completely logical that Freemasonic logic could infiltrate the Vatican. We cannot exclude it. And therefore we can assume it, but to what extent we do not know. At least some signs can indicate it: this veneration of Pachamama, this completely naturalistic agenda, and this relativism of religions.
So this could be, but we have no certainty because the essence, the nature of Freemasonry, is secrecy and esotericism. So there is no access, and they will not give access. Therefore, we can only assume and have some signs of this. But they will not manage. They will not succeed in triumphing over the Holy See, because the chair of Peter was founded by our Lord Jesus Christ, and the gates of hell will not prevail.